Wednesday, January 16, 2008

private police force oxymoron

Duration: 04:54 minutes
Upload Time: 2007-12-08 17:13:09
User: pyrrho314
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"just stop talking" is a very revealing argument used, mostly, when trying to argue against things one knows to be too obvious to take head on. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2008-01-09 00:53:56

yawa, not sure where you stand on MA, best if labels don't apply anyway... but I'll say I do support private "police", aka security, to augment our actual security... public infrastructure is a fall back.. cheers.
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YawadrahWred ::: Favorites  2008-01-08 23:43:53

I don't argue that. I was just complaining about the inefficiency of my local Police force. Hoping to show the point that while police can help, I've had very little experience with them other than hassling or harrasing individuals following the law. They should be more akin to Fireman than watch dogs. Come when called if your patroling doesnt stop crime in the first place. your waisting gas and money.
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2008-01-03 15:49:18

that sucks and is not acceptable... but the questio here is will getting rid of government make the problem better or worse... I suggest you would probably not even own that property in a market anarchy. I suspect that powerful corporations would instead lease us all our property since retaining property right equals power in a market anarchy even more so than in semi-feudal democracy.
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YawadrahWred ::: Favorites  2008-01-03 13:33:49

WITH police activly patroling my neiborhood, only taking a short walk to the stoor EVERYTHING of value in my house was taken. Now, not to say that ALL police forces are this incompotent. but this is rediculous. Even without joining in illegal activities and paying my taxes I lost easily $8000. and the culprates were never caught.
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dateofbirthdateof ::: Favorites  2007-12-21 17:26:28

Police are enforcers of the law. People want law because they prefer having universally recognizable and universally enforceable rights rather than having rights which are only recognized by whoever wants to recognize them and enforced by whatever means are available.
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2007-12-13 14:27:26

btw, that story: one, it does not say it took long for the cops to get there... the security guard deserves praise but clearly the reason she could act is because she is there all day long protecting just that spot... the people that pay her. If the killer attacks the place next door, they are on their own. That's my point. Protecting everyone.
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2007-12-13 14:22:48

why do you guys on this "anarchic" side always ask stuff like that... "what's your point?" His point is obvious... so obvious you have to pretend to be all cool like it's no thang, the disabled can handle it... there is nothing to stop them from defending themselves probably if someone will do it for them... each year I feel less bad making you live in a society with wheelchair ramps.
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2007-12-13 04:21:46

sometimes they do
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2007-12-13 04:21:07

it's not rammed as by a king, it is a compromise, reached democratically, which is meant to be engineered to allow the most personal freedom. Like... being able to drive free on the roads is "rammed down your throat"... no, it's infrastructure you can share.
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homersparents ::: Favorites  2007-12-13 00:14:11

Police do not protect they police. That is it. People want protection only because they feel fear. Fear of other people. Fear that in most cases is unwarranted. Why fear Joe down the street, because the government wants you to fear Joe down the street. So that there Gestapo (in the guise of a holy protector) Can be in place when they blow the whistle and then cart us all off to the camps. The truth is they do not prevent crime or serve the public.
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TabooRealities ::: Favorites  2007-12-12 22:10:26

What if the better government program doesn't get rammed down peoples' throat? And if forcing people to pay taxes to pay for police is so much better - why do you have to forcefully impose taxes? Is it that hard to get someone to benefit themselves? The answer is, IT ISN'T BETTER FOR THEM... it's just better for creating what YOU want.
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TabooRealities ::: Favorites  2007-12-12 21:54:13

No, the lone Ranger.
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2007-12-12 16:10:56

but you are also planning to remove some of the checks we have on coercion right now.
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pyrrho314 ::: Favorites  2007-12-12 16:09:41

your assumptions are rash... absent forceful coercion? what about absent advertising? which one wins then? What if only the better thing goes unadvertised? How does forceful coercion play a role then?
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gratex ::: Favorites  2007-12-12 12:04:54

oh god no, not musak, I'm talking some powerful soulfunk like starsky and hutch.
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